Legislature(2001 - 2002)

01/24/2001 12:34 PM House BUD

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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
          JOINT COMMITTEE ON LEGISLATIVE BUDGET AND AUDIT                                                                     
                         January 24, 2001                                                                                     
                           12:34 p.m.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Gene Therriault, Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Lyman Hoffman                                                                                                           
Senator Randy Phillips                                                                                                          
Senator Jerry Ward                                                                                                              
Senator Gary Wilken, alternate                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hugh Fate, Vice Chair                                                                                            
Representative John Harris                                                                                                      
Representative Ken Lancaster                                                                                                    
Representative Reggie Joule                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
Senator Dave Donley                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Eldon Mulder                                                                                                     
Representative John Davies, alternate                                                                                           
Representative William Williams, alternate                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE PROCEDURES OVERVIEW                                                                                                   
APPROVAL OF MINUTES                                                                                                             
EXECUTIVE SESSION                                                                                                               
AUDIT REPORTS                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
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CHAIR  THERRIAULT  called  the  Joint  Committee  on  Legislative                                                               
Budget and Audit meeting to order  at 12:34 p.m.  Members present                                                               
at  the   call  to  order  were   Senators  Therriault,  Hoffman,                                                               
Phillips, and  Wilken, and  Representatives Fate,  Harris, Joule,                                                               
and Lancaster.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT stated there was a short agenda for today's                                                                    
meeting.    He  mentioned  that David  Teal,  Legislative  Fiscal                                                               
Analyst, Legislative Finance  Division, Alaska State Legislature,                                                               
was  not  present  due  to  the  lack  of  RPL  (Revised  Program                                                               
Legislative) requests from the administration.   He said that the                                                               
committee  has  preliminary audits  that  will  be available  for                                                               
discussion in  executive session.   After executive  session, the                                                               
committee  will make  a motion  to release  the audits  that were                                                               
decided upon.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  THERRIAULT described  the membership  on the  committee as                                                               
being five members  from the House and five from  the Senate.  In                                                               
addition, there  are three alternate members;  Senator Wilken and                                                               
Representatives Williams and Davies.   For the purpose of voting,                                                               
if  both   Representatives  Williams  and  Davies   are  present,                                                               
Representative Williams  will take precedent  over Representative                                                               
Davies.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  THERRIAULT explained  that it  takes  a quorum  of six  in                                                               
order  to  take  an  affirmative action  for  RPL's,  release  of                                                               
audits, and  authorizing or  improving an  audit request.   There                                                               
must be  at least  one vote  from each  body [House  and Senate].                                                               
For example,  if there  are only  six committee  members present,                                                               
(five Senators and  one Representative), one vote  must come from                                                               
the House in order for an action to be approved.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  THERRIAULT explained  that RPL's  are adjustments  made to                                                               
the  current  year's  budget.    In  the  front  section  of  the                                                               
operating  budget,  the  Legislative  Budget  &  Audit  Committee                                                               
(LB&A) is  given specific authorization  by the  full legislature                                                               
to make certain adjustments to the  budget.  This is renewed each                                                               
year. Therefore,  the Legislative Budget and  Audit Committee can                                                               
be  given authorization  to make  adjustments  to different  fund                                                               
sources.    Currently,  the only  authorization  the  Legislative                                                               
Budget and Audit Committee has  is for adjustments in receipt and                                                               
expenditure  of federal  funds and  SDPR (Statutorily  Designated                                                               
Program Receipts).                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR  FATE made a  motion to  approve the minutes  from the                                                               
December 6, 2000 meeting.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT asked whether there  were any objections.  There                                                               
being none,  the minutes from  the December 6, 2000  meeting were                                                               
approved as read.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
EXECUTIVE SESSION                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                              
VICE CHAIR  FATE made a motion  to move to executive  session for                                                               
the  purpose  of  discussing  confidential  audit  reports  under                                                               
Alaska  Statute   24.23.01.    There  being   no  objection,  the                                                               
committee went into executive session at 12:38 p.m.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT  requested that the following  people attend the                                                               
executive  session:  Pat  Davidson, Jim  Griffin,  Nikki  Rouget,                                                               
(Legislative   Audit  Division   Staff),   and  Heather   Brakes,                                                               
(Legislative Budget and Audit Committee Aide).                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR FATE made a motion  to move back into regular session.                                                               
There  being  no  objection,  the  committee  reconvened  regular                                                               
session at 1:10 p.m.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
AUDIT REPORTS                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
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VICE CHAIR FATE made a  motion to release the preliminary reports                                                               
to the agencies for response.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT  clarified that  the report  to be  released was                                                               
the  Department  of Corrections  -  Board  of Parole  Preliminary                                                               
Audit.  There being no objection,  this audit was released to the                                                               
agency for comment.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR FATE made a motion  to release the final audit reports                                                               
to the public.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  THERRIAULT stated  that the  audits to  be released  were:                                                               
DCED/CSED  Performance  (08-4593-01)  -  Department  of  Revenue,                                                               
Child    Support   Enforcement    Division,   Selected    Issues;                                                               
DHSS/DMHDD/DMA Follow-up (06-4599-01) -  Department of Health and                                                               
Social  Services, Divisions  of Mental  Health and  Developmental                                                               
Disabilities  and  Medical  Assistance, Community  Mental  Health                                                               
Center   Programs,  Follow-Up   Report;   DCED/Board  of   Dental                                                               
Examiners (08-20002-01)  - Department  of Community  and Economic                                                               
Development,   Board   of   Dental  Examiners,   Sunset   Review;                                                               
DFG/Mariculture  (11-30002-01)  -Department  of  Fish  and  Game,                                                               
Department  of   Natural  Resources,  Office  of   the  Governor,                                                               
Division  of Governmental  Coordination, Mariculture  Development                                                               
and  the Aquatic  Farm  Act.   There  being  no objection,  those                                                               
audits were released to the public.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR FATE made a motion to approve the audit requests.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT  stated that Senator  Donley had made  two audit                                                               
requests.   He explained  that the  Legislative Budget  and Audit                                                               
Committee  normally  attempts  to   provide  information  to  the                                                               
requestor without going  to a formalized audit.   There are audit                                                               
requests pending. But,  even if an audit request  was approved at                                                               
this time, the  audit probably would not be  completed before the                                                               
next legislative  session. If possible,  we try to work  with the                                                               
audit  requestors to  see if  Pat  Davidson and  the Division  of                                                               
Legislative Audit  have the information.   Sometimes a  call from                                                               
the  Division of  Legislative Audit  to an  agency regarding  the                                                               
potential threat of  an audit will cause the agency  to work with                                                               
the  requestor.   Chair Therriault  noted that  he has  suggested                                                               
those interested in making an  audit request contact the Division                                                               
of Legislative  Audit before submitting the  request.  Requestors                                                               
can also work with the  Division of Legislative Audit on "framing                                                               
the question," to ensure that the audit will be done quickly.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT said there were  no audit requests to approve or                                                               
consider at this time.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOULE asked, when audit  requests are made and put                                                               
forth  to  the  committee,  if  they  will  be  put  in  members'                                                               
committee packets.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT confirmed  that the audit requests  would be put                                                               
in the  committee packets.   He  reminded committee  members that                                                               
audit requests  require a vote of  six to be approved.  In regard                                                               
to the  committee's earlier discussion on  the confidentiality of                                                               
the audit  reports, Chair Therriault reminded  the committee that                                                               
the  red reports  [confidential  preliminary  reports] that  were                                                               
handed out,  needed to be  returned to Pat  Davidson, Legislative                                                               
Auditor.    Those committee  members  interested  in reviewing  a                                                               
preliminary  audit   should  contact  Pat  Davidson   or  Senator                                                               
Therriault's office.   He pointed out that  the preliminary audit                                                               
will need to be returned after viewing.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  THERRIAULT  adjourned  the Joint  Legislative  Budget  and                                                               
Audit Committee meeting at 1:15 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              

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